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The number 97-ranked (by Cagematch) Eliminators come in at number 85 on this list. The number 98-ranked Hart Brothers don’t show up on my list because, shockingly, they only ever had three two-on-two tag team matches that were filmed for television (or VHS release) during their careers.
All three of those matches happened in a two-month span. I too am shocked that they never teamed for a 2-on-2 match during 1997. Here’s a look at those three matches.
John Kronus met Perry Saturn while they were both working at a nightclub, and the former asked the latter to help him get into wrestling. The two started teaming at the very beginning of Kronus’s career in the USWA and eventually made their way to ECW after a tour with WAR in Japan.
The Eliminators were bad. Their appearance on this list is thanks to people who remember ECW being good when 95% of it was really bad. Oddly enough, even though the teams were very different, the Hart Brothers are also ranked on this list because of fond, nostalgic feelings rather than actual quality matches together. But there’s no point in watching these matches in the order in which they’re ranked by Cagematch because I know ahead of time they’re all going to be bad. On the bright side, they were all very easy to find on Peacock.
November 18, 1995 – Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Pitbull #1 & Pitbull #2 def. Perry Saturn & John Kronus
From November to Remember. Joey Styles hilariously calls the night’s main event one of Terry Funk’s last matches before retirement. Funk didn’t even really pretend to retire until four years later. And of course, he came out of retirement multiple times after that. The Eliminators are managed by pretty boy Jason, because ECW was nothing if not a total hodgepodge of things that didn’t make any congruent sense. Miraculously, this is the only match in this post in which one of the Eliminator’s opponents has since passed away. This match was not terrible. Well, it was terrible the few times that Jason interfered, as it looked like no one knew what they were doing each time he entered the ring. But besides that, it was a perfectly acceptable ten minutes of a bunch of chunky dudes hitting each other with big man offense. I totally didn’t hate it. The Pitbulls did look like they were going to kill Saturn and Kronus when they hit their double team moves off of the turnbuckle because they weren’t strong enough to hold them up, but no one got badly injured in the end. The Pitbulls hit Kronus with a Superbomb for the win at 11:01. **½
January 5, 1996 – Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Rey Misterio Jr. & 911 def. Perry Saturn & John Kronus
From House Party. This was an impromptu opener that spun out of a segment wherein Taz and Bill Alfonso were harassing Joey Styles during his opening speech, and then the Eliminators siding with Taz. It started as a handicap match, but Misterio ran out to even the score. Jason has thankfully started wearing a leather jacket to be a little more in sync with his team. Misterio confounding the Eliminators for a minute was fun, but the rest ranged in quality from worthless to remarkably stupid. A lot of the match was Taz and Alfonso running and choking 911. The finish saw Misterio and Saturn getting up on each other’s shoulders, presumably for a chicken fight. But Saturn put up no resistance when Misterio jumped off of 911’s shoulders to hit a hurricanrana for the win at 7:31. Very nice of the Eliminators to stand totally still and allow Misterio to hit his finisher. Awful. ¾*
February 3, 1996 – Queens, New York
John Kronus & Perry Saturn def. Cactus Jack & Mikey Whipwreck {ECW World Tag Team Championship Match}
From Big Apple Blizzard Blast. The Eliminators hadn’t exactly been on a winning streak going into this show, so it’s unclear why they were given this title shot. Oh, sorry, it’s ECW and nothing matters. Jack is wearing a WW F’n F shirt to piss off the fans. Of course, he did debut there two months after this. At this point, it’s already very plain to see that Saturn is taking wrestling much more seriously than Kronus. He’s super fit and Kronus is in worse shape even than he was a month earlier. They’ve also ditched Jason. The first two minutes of the match is all mugging and stalling. Once that ends, a neat story bubbles up that sees Whipwreck control the Eliminators with side headlocks, but Jack sacrifices his team’s advantage because he doesn’t like watching that kind of wrestling. He tells Whipwreck to leave so he can defend them by himself, just like he won them by himself. I can’t remember if that’s true. Whipwreck does not leave. Things pick up for a couple of minutes until the Eliminators hit Whipwreck with Total Elimination for the win at 12:10. Jack turns on Whipwreck after the match, despite seemingly having been in position to save him and the titles at any time. Maybe that was the whole gimmick, I don’t remember and I can’t be bothered to check. This was pretty bad save for the cute bit early on and one minute of action near the end. *¾
February 22, 1997 – Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
John Kronus & Perry Saturn def. Rob Van Dam & Sabu {ECW World Tag Team Championship Match}
From Crossing the Line Again. The Eliminators had held the titles for half a year before losing them to the Gangstas in a four way. They won the belts back in December. During that time without the titles, they wrestled to an infamous draw against RVD & Sabu, and then after winning the titles they defended them against the same team at the Night the Line was Crossed. Thankfully, I already covered those matches, saving me from watching it now. They’re not bad, just long for the sake of it. This is also kinda long. Kronus spent the year getting into better shape, which is nice, and Saturn shaved off his mullet, which is nice or awful depending on your tastes. I’ve seen this listed as a Tables & Ladders Match, but it’s just a regular ECW match wherein they happened to use ladders a lot. I was quite enjoying the opening minutes of the match, which saw Saturn own RVD on the mat. Then it turned into a weapon fest. Though not a bad one. In fact, I’m tempted to call this a prototype for the Hardy/Dudley/Edge & Christian matches of 1999-2000. The thing that’s missing from this match though was the sense that one of the teams might win at any point before the actual finish. That missing drama hurt this compared to the WWF matches that came after. But the action was consistent and intense, even if it didn’t always make sense and only Saturn really made any attempt at selling anything. The Eliminators hit RVD with two Total Eliminations for the win at 20:18. Everyone made nice after the match. I can confidently say this was the best of their three matches. ***¼
April 13, 1997 – Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
John Kronus & Perry Saturn def. Buh Buh Ray Dudley & D-Von Dudley {ECW World Tag Team Championship Match}
From Barely Legal. The Dudleys had beaten the Eliminators for the titles in March, so this was the Eliminators winning the belts back so that another notable thing could go down on ECW’s first ever PPV. The show that the Dudleys won the titles on, Hostile City Showdown ‘97, is one that was much easier to watch before WWE bought ECW as it was readily available in tape trading circles. It is not currently up on Peacock (or the WWE Network as far as I can tell) and seems to have been scrubbed from all streaming sites. This was a complete squash, and it made the Eliminators look like absolute monsters. I don’t think the Dudleys got one move in after the first 30 seconds. Everything Saturn & Kronus did looked good, and if this was my first exposure to ECW I could be easily fooled into thinking they were the future of tag team wrestling at the time. They hit Buh Buh Ray with Total Elimination for the win at 6:11. **¾
After three runs with the title, Saturn got injured and Kronus lost the belts in a handicap match to the Dudleys again. Saturn was out for a long time, and when he returned he did not want to team up with the overweight and under-motivated Kronus again. Heyman gave him a release and he went to WCW. Kronus stuck around a bit longer, but left in ‘99 and retired in ‘02. Then he passed away in 2008. Saturn has had some troubles in recent years as well, but if I remember right he’s sober now and is doing as well as can be expected for a guy suffering from CTE.
When I started this review, I wrote out a whole spiel about it being a testament to the hypnotic powers of Paul Heyman that the Eliminators made it on this list. I felt that they had no real talent as a team and no in-ring personality whatsoever. I made the case that they were no better than then Head Bangers, and that the Head Bangers were correctly evaluated by history and the Eliminators were not. But in 1997, Kronus got in shape and the team became much more interesting. I still don’t think they belong on this list, but I get the hype a bit more now.
From Diamond Ring Kensuke Office Changes. They emphasize that Nakajima beat Dragon Gate wrestler Kenichiro Arai
From Dynamite 131. This is a qualifying match for the Owen Hart Foundation tournament. Joe debuted at ROH Supercard of Honor, saving Jonathan Gresham from Jay Lethal (whose soul searching apparently led him to turn heel) & Sonjay Dutt after the main event. And now that ROH and AEW are the same thing, that seems worth mentioning. Caster’s pre-match rap was cute. This was real squashy, with Joe needing only two minutes to put Caster down with the Muscle Buster at 2:52. Lethal & Dutt pop up on the big screens and Lethal says he’d been trying to get a hold of Joe during his difficult soul searching time, and Joe never picked up. They have a present for Joe next week. N/A
From Dynamite 132. Jay Lethal & Sonjay Dutt were in the front row cheering on Joe. Sarcastically, probably, as they brawled with Joe at ROH Supercard of Honor XV.
From Rampage 39.
From Dynamite 137.
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From Double or Nothing.
From PWF York Cougar Football Fundraiser. I didn't know that this match happened until over a month after the fact. This started out as a non-title match, but we'll get to why I've listed it as a title match in a moment. FTR have Mick Foley in their corner while their opponents have Bill Behrens. I’ve never actually seen Behrens do an on-camera gig before. He's holding a tennis racket, presumably as an Umaga to Jim Cornette. But it's confusing because there was actually a tennis player named Bill Behrens. They announce this match as having a 20-minute time limit. Only 11 minutes in, they say there are three minutes remaining. Until then, this was as run-of-the-mill as a modern FTR match gets. But the announcement snapped everyone out of their heat-on-Wheeler funk and forced them to go for desperate pins. They announce ten seconds remaining a couple of times, but no one can get the roll up pin they're looking for. The 20-minute time limit expires at 1
From NXT UK 183. McGuinness started by essentially saying that Fraser is going to pee or poo himself during the match. Unnecessary. Had Shawn Michaels been game to have a good match against Vader, this is what it would have looked like. Actually, a more appropriate and modern analogue is Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins from SummerSlam. Much like that match, Frazer used quick strikes and avoided his larger opponent’s signature big move to stay alive. Here it was the powerbomb whereas there it was suplexes. Here, Frazer also successfully damaged WALTER’s knee, which slowed the big man down and made it hard for WALTER to hit the powerbomb. Unfortunately for Frazer, WALTER was able to bide his time and clothesline Frazer’s legs out from under him. An inevitable powerbomb followed and won the match for WALTER at 14:02. I hate to say this because I’m happy that he’s healthier, but the way WALTER has slimmed down has taken some of the magic away from his aura. At least for me it has. That said, dude can clearly still go as well as ever in the ring. ****
From NXT 659. Strong was feeling it here, which is thanks in large part to the crowd being maniacally loud from the get go I’m sure. His whole game was fast and devastating stick and move attacks. That worked pretty well, as WALTER was dazed from time to time. But as with all good WALTER matches (which is pretty much all WALTER matches), everything WALTER does is devastating here so it takes very little for him to take back control. And eventually he did just that and hit the powerbomb for the win at 9:46 (shown of 12:18). After the match, WALTER gets on the microphone and says that his name is Gunther now. I did not think WALTER would be a victim of the renaming curse this far into his run. What will they rename Strong?! ***¾
From NXT UK 185. Andy Shepherd helpfully announces from inside the ring that the reason for the stipulation is that the feud has gotten so violent that it wouldn’t be safe to have fans around. Devlin says during the match that it’s because he thinks Dragunov could only muster the energy to win if he had the crowd behind him. I like that explanation a lot more. The only real reason I could think of to do this without fans is that there was a scheduling conflict with one of the wrestlers for the regular TV taping date and they needed to get this thing filmed. We just had such a long stretch of empty arena NXT UK episodes that I can’t imagine anyone was dying to get another taste of it. This aired the day after Adam Cole vs. Orange Cassidy in a match that was also no disqualification and falls count anywhere, and this served up everything I felt was missing from that match. Now you might say, “Brad, Cassidy is not the same kind of character as Devlin or Dragunov, how could you expect the same level of violence or intensity?” To that I say, when Cassidy started his match by breaking his own sunglasses and rapidly punching Cole, he was indicating that level of violence and/or intensity. And instead the match was mostly wacky. Anyway, this was not wacky. It was stiff and intense and featured weapons that made sense and spots the didn’t take forever to set up. Dragunov got in trouble when his eye injury acted up. Devlin took control and beat the crap out of him. I wasn’t wild about how meek Dragunov was when Devlin was zip tying his hands, but I did like that in the end it turned out to be an error on Devlin’s part anyway because Dragunov’s finisher requires no hands. And indeed, a bound Dragunov jumped off the steel steps (which had been brought into the ring) and hit the Torpedo Moskau on Devlin for the win at 21:43. NXT UK is still sneaking in these dope matches that no one is watching. Y’all should watch them. ****¼
From AAA Triplemania Regia. FTR come out with Vickie Guerrero. This was supposed to be explained at an earlier AAA taping but FTR and Guerrero all missed them. AAA is notorious for having this kind of luck/being incompetent lately. FTR is also wearing Eddie Guerrero tribute tights, with American flags on one side and flames on the other, I suppose to pay homage to his Gringos Locos and Latino Heat gimmicks. This match mostly sucked, but one cool spot saw FTR tie Pentagon’s mask to the ropes and force him to unmask with his hands over his face to stop them from climbing the ladder. That would have been a very meaningful moment to lead up to the Lucha Brothers winning the titles back, but unfortunately instead it led into nothing. He just got his mask back and the match continued on in its lame, derivative way. At one point, Pentagon was the only man standing, but instead of climbing the ladder he grabbed a table from the floor. So the titles mean enough to him that he’d unmask to stop his opponents from winning, but not enough for him to get the titles when he had a clear path to do it? Vickie powered Pentagon, causing him to voluntarily jump through the table and Harwood grabbed the belts at 12:12. This was abysmal. *
From AEW Full Gear. Silver was hamming it up a lot more here than he was the year before in New York. That said, this had stronger just-a-match vibes than the aforementioned match. After Silver ripped out Cassidy’s pockets, Cassidy turned up the heat and these guys put on a middle of the row undercard match. Not bad by any means, but nothing memorable either. Cassidy hit the Beach Break rather out of nowhere for the win at 9:42. **¾
From the second Honor Reigns Supreme. The commentators sold this as Gresham getting a big shot against a top ROH guy after being an also-ran in the Television Championship division for a while. This was terrific. Both guys did a fantastic job selling their respective targeted limbs, and Gresham in particular played the role of the tenacious underdog perfectly. He didn’t just watch to see where Lethal would have trouble executing his finisher because of the damage he’d done to the former ROH Champion’s arm, he pressed the assault whenever he could, taking out the arm to make sure the Lethal Injection would never come. But what he couldn’t do was stop Lethal from battering his knee and ultimately winning with a Figure 4 Leglock at 17:54. ****¼
From the second Masters of the Craft. Columbus has way more Gresham fans than Concord did. That’s a neat little advancement to the plot, innit? They both went after the same limbs that earned them dividends in their previous match. And then they went ahead and built an incredible match out of that story. At first it seemed as though Lethal wasn’t going to be able to get Gresham’s leg to give out. But about halfway through the match, Gresham’s knee was in trouble. Gresham was able to escape the leglock this time by using the momentum of Lethal pulling him away from the ropes to shift to an armbar. But Gresham’s focus on the arm bit him in the ass. Lethal went for the Lethal Injection and collapsed again, but when Gresham went for a roll up after that Lethal cut back on it for the win at 18:27. This is one of the best American examples that I've seen of a match building on the match that came before. Rather than try to outdo the maneuvers from their first meeting for the sake of a big crowd reaction, they adjust their game plans in logical ways that, to me, were just as exciting. I think this match is slept on, by virtue of the fact that I’ve never heard anything about it before watching it. ****½
From ROH Wrestling 364. In real life,
From Death Before Dishonor XVII. Gresham and Lethal had been teaming, but Gresham grew frustrated and started heeling. Ultimately, he turned on Lethal. It took them a little while to get there, but once they got into a groove this was exactly what I wanted from this match. It was back to their old tricks, with Lethal targeting the leg to set up for the Figure 4 Leglock and Gresham targeting the arm to block the Lethal Injection and set up for his Octopus. In the end, Lethal tried the cutback trick that worked for him in Columbus, but Gresham countered to a pin and then put on the gnarliest Octopus for his first win over Lethal at 17:20. This is the best kind of wrestling series. And none of it felt stale because it was a year after they’d wrestled last and because they found ways to energize the old tropes. And that’s not to mention Gresham busting out what I can only describe as a sumo-style assault. Gresham and Lethal make up after the match. ****
From ROH Wrestling 500. During the pandemic, ROH made the most of their empty arena shows by kicking them off with a tournament to crown a champion for the revived Pure Championship. Gresham won the tournament, and this was his fourth defense of the title. Lethal and Gresham were still allies here. In an interesting move, the other match on this milestone episode was two other partners fighting in Jay and Mark Briscoe. They cut to a commercial break about six minutes in, though the action didn’t get beyond (admittedly fast-moving) mat wrestling until the 10-minute mark. That had me thinking this was going to go long, but things took a different turn. Both guys had abused the other’s shoulders, and Lethal used that to his advantage best. He forced Gresham to use his first rope break to stop a pin, and his second to escape a crab. Then, he used the failed Lethal Injection to bait Gresham into a crossface, forcing the champ to use his final rope break. But he made the mistake of giving Gresham a breather and was quickly caught in a head scissor takedown giving Gresham the winning pin at 14:06 (shown of 16:40). For an empty arena match, this held my attention. It was totally different than their previous matches while still using a couple elements from the rivalry to elevate it just a bit. Not essential viewing, but if you’re working your way through their series you shouldn’t skip it. ***¼ 


